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		<title>By: Andreas Resch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas Resch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ben for the explanation about when you use the GND and how you decide about the the strength of it. As I imagined a lot of experience comes into this decision making.

The problem I have here in the Alps is that I hardly find any flat horizons and in most cases the GND will affect the surrounding mountains as well. That&#039;s when I have no problems to make a exposure blending with my digital equipment but hesitate to do it with my large format camera. So I&#039;m always happy when my metering tells me that everything is in range. If not I might have to bite the bullet and decide between using the GND or go for two exposures.

Thanks for your support.

Take care,
Andreas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ben for the explanation about when you use the GND and how you decide about the the strength of it. As I imagined a lot of experience comes into this decision making.</p>
<p>The problem I have here in the Alps is that I hardly find any flat horizons and in most cases the GND will affect the surrounding mountains as well. That&#8217;s when I have no problems to make a exposure blending with my digital equipment but hesitate to do it with my large format camera. So I&#8217;m always happy when my metering tells me that everything is in range. If not I might have to bite the bullet and decide between using the GND or go for two exposures.</p>
<p>Thanks for your support.</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Horne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Horne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree about the B&amp;W part. The beauty of B&amp;W is that a shot like this could be taken at any time of day. With color, I need to have some special light on the foreground, otherwise it would just be a dull brown wasteland.

I&#039;m strongly considering taking B&amp;W on future trips so at least it will be a possibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree about the B&amp;W part. The beauty of B&amp;W is that a shot like this could be taken at any time of day. With color, I need to have some special light on the foreground, otherwise it would just be a dull brown wasteland.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m strongly considering taking B&amp;W on future trips so at least it will be a possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Horne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Horne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a fantastic tip Rick!  Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a fantastic tip Rick!  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Horne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Horne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use GND filters for a large number of my shots. They&#039;re much less important on color neg film, but I still decided to use on with this setup. If I was shooting slide film, it would be absolutely necessary.

I selected a 2 stop hard ND because I was planning for a morning shot when the sky and mountains would have more light than the foreground.

My general rule of thumb is to use a 3 stop hard grad when shooting toward the sun at sunrise/sunset, and use a 2 stop grad if I&#039;m shooting toward the north or south at sunrise/sunset.  Also, if it&#039;s a cloudy sunrise/sunset and I&#039;m aiming toward the sun, I&#039;ll use the 2 stop.

On 8x10, a hard stop ND filter becomes a very soft ND, so I rarely use my soft grads.

On my trip to DV a year ago, I watched a sunrise and sunset at badwater before deciding what I wanted to shoot. I didn&#039;t take my camera with me that day, but I did take my grad filters. I held a few different ones up to my eye, and that&#039;s how I figured out which ones to use.

From a technical standpoint, you can use your spot meter to tell you how much of a grad you need. Set your exposure for the foreground, then meter the sky. If the sky is metered at +4, I know slide film can&#039;t handle that, so a 3 stop grad ND will bring it back to +1 which is more natural.

One last thing on the not of grad filters. Just like you said, I can always remove the filter if necessary. If on the other hand I decide I need to add a stronger filter, I an do that without having to look at the ground glass again. I measure the distance between the top of the filter and the holder with my finger, then insert the stronger filter the same way. I use the wrinkles on my knuckles to measure the distance.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use GND filters for a large number of my shots. They&#8217;re much less important on color neg film, but I still decided to use on with this setup. If I was shooting slide film, it would be absolutely necessary.</p>
<p>I selected a 2 stop hard ND because I was planning for a morning shot when the sky and mountains would have more light than the foreground.</p>
<p>My general rule of thumb is to use a 3 stop hard grad when shooting toward the sun at sunrise/sunset, and use a 2 stop grad if I&#8217;m shooting toward the north or south at sunrise/sunset.  Also, if it&#8217;s a cloudy sunrise/sunset and I&#8217;m aiming toward the sun, I&#8217;ll use the 2 stop.</p>
<p>On 8&#215;10, a hard stop ND filter becomes a very soft ND, so I rarely use my soft grads.</p>
<p>On my trip to DV a year ago, I watched a sunrise and sunset at badwater before deciding what I wanted to shoot. I didn&#8217;t take my camera with me that day, but I did take my grad filters. I held a few different ones up to my eye, and that&#8217;s how I figured out which ones to use.</p>
<p>From a technical standpoint, you can use your spot meter to tell you how much of a grad you need. Set your exposure for the foreground, then meter the sky. If the sky is metered at +4, I know slide film can&#8217;t handle that, so a 3 stop grad ND will bring it back to +1 which is more natural.</p>
<p>One last thing on the not of grad filters. Just like you said, I can always remove the filter if necessary. If on the other hand I decide I need to add a stronger filter, I an do that without having to look at the ground glass again. I measure the distance between the top of the filter and the holder with my finger, then insert the stronger filter the same way. I use the wrinkles on my knuckles to measure the distance.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Arnaud</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very interesting video. It sure looks to be a great composition. I hope you managed to have the light you wanted here.
I think it could have been a grat black&amp;white picture too.
Can&#039;t wait till the next post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting video. It sure looks to be a great composition. I hope you managed to have the light you wanted here.<br />
I think it could have been a grat black&amp;white picture too.<br />
Can&#8217;t wait till the next post.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben,

enjoying your trip and thought processes.

Re. adjusting the grads, a trick I learned from Michael Gordon is to use a Post-It note on the &quot;seam&quot;- that makes it much easier to see the transition point.  Of course you will need to remove it before shooting :)

Rick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>enjoying your trip and thought processes.</p>
<p>Re. adjusting the grads, a trick I learned from Michael Gordon is to use a Post-It note on the &#8220;seam&#8221;- that makes it much easier to see the transition point.  Of course you will need to remove it before shooting <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Resch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas Resch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for another great video from your trip, Ben.

I&#039;m still a bit hesitant to use the GND and in most cases I hope that the dynamic range of the film covers it all.
Do you know by experience that the 2-stop-GND will be necessary in low light conditions or might it happen that you remove the filter later when you meter for the final shot and see that 2 stops is too much? 

Looks like a great composition and I&#039;m curious how the final result(s) turn out.

Cheers,
Andreas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another great video from your trip, Ben.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a bit hesitant to use the GND and in most cases I hope that the dynamic range of the film covers it all.<br />
Do you know by experience that the 2-stop-GND will be necessary in low light conditions or might it happen that you remove the filter later when you meter for the final shot and see that 2 stops is too much? </p>
<p>Looks like a great composition and I&#8217;m curious how the final result(s) turn out.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Andreas</p>
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